Trestle Valley Rangers 

                    Cowboy Action Shooters Of the

        Minot rifle & Pistol club

Welcome to the fire.

On this page I will bring topics to your attention that are being discussed which may affect changes to SASS rules and ask for your opinions, Your feedback is necessary as I will vote based on the  majority consensus of those who share their opinions.

NOTE:    ROI / ROII Classes 

ROI & ROII classes are scheduled for March 4th, 2012. The ROI class will be from 8:30am-12:30pm then lunch will be available. The ROII class will be from 1pm-4pm the we will be on the indoor range for 1 hour of practical field training. So that I have enough materials & lunch for everyone, those who have not yet registered, but wish to take either or both courses need to contact me: email or call 701-720-1140 or use the link below so I can get you on the list. Fees: ROI $10 / ROII $25 (fee includes training materials, ROI pin / ROII Certificate / ROII pin). There is no charge for current ROI/ROIIs' wanting to take a refresher during either class.

Location: The Minot Rifle and Pistol Club's indoor range facilities are located west of Minot on US 2/52. GPS: 48º 13’ 20” N   x  101º 23’ 17” W From Minot, proceed west on US 2/52. Go 1.3 miles west of Behm's Truck Stop/Country Kitchen Restaurant and turn left (CR-17). Follow the road (CR-17) under the trestle bridge and bear left at the intersection (62nd St. SW). The indoor range is on the right hand side at the top of the hill (about 1/2 mile). It is a grey steel building with green trim.

 Charlie T Waite: RO Instructor

2011 TG SUMMIT (Decisions & Vote)

I want to thank you for the time you took to review these topics & respond.

ROC Discussion/Clarification 2011 TG Summit

1) CLARIFICATION of the rules re: DE-COCKING: (As posted on the SASS Wire (s) on 26 October 2011) 7. De-cocking may not be done to avoid a penalty if cocked at the wrong time, position or location once a round has gone down range. NO gun may be de-cocked on the firing line except by pointing it down range and pulling the trigger or while under the direct supervision of a stage officer/Timer Operator. The penalty for de-cocking is a Stage Disqualification. SHB p.23 / RO1 p.16 "Under the direct supervision" requires the TOs acknowledgement in an instructive or affirmative manner. In other words there must be a positive indication to the shooter that the TO is giving his approval for the shooters action.

2) RE: NAVY PEPPERBOX REVOLVER Noting that it is assembled on a "Colt Navy frame it qualifies as a MAIN MATCH revolver & thus is Disqualified as a "Pocket Pistol" (regardless of barrel length).

3) RE: .38 S&W SPL is LEGAL for PLAINSMAN side matches (originally introduced in 1899 as a black powder round)

4) BASIC RULES FOR THE LONG RANGE COMPETITIONS (SHB p. 18 bullet #4) Optical and receiver mounted sights are not allowed. EDIT for CLARIFICATION:
Receiver mounted sights are not allowed. OPTICAL sights are only allowed in that category.

5) ROC ruling: NO to the use of a 12ga/.70cal "slug gun" in SASS Long Range RIFLE side matches. Shotguns using slugs are NOT legal as a RIFLE.

6) There is a mobile app being used DURING Long Range side matches to calculate info for sight adjustment. (Real time info, including elevation, temperature, humidity, etc inputs combined with preset individual firearm/ammo data). One person punches in the numbers & provides the adjustment info to the shooter.  Shooter v.1.6.2.8 In addition to rangefinders, the use of this or any similar device is a Side match DQ.

7) BISLEY HAMMER on a Ruger OLD ARMY percussion revolver? SHB hammers on a ROA are OK under the current “Firearms Covenants”. Lower and/or wider hammers on percussion revolvers fall under the same allowance as for cartridge pistols. BISLEY hammers (modified or not) installed on ANY revolver without the BISLEY grip frame are still NOT ALLOWED.

8) Clarification re: Ammunition-related “Outlawed/illegal” items will be covered under: The “Use of illegally-acquired ammunition” penalty.

9) There is no prohibition re: wearing a rifle/pistol ammo slide over SG loops on an ammo belt (as there is in regard to a SHOT SHELL ammo slide), Sewing the loops directly to a shot shell loop on either a slide or belt is acceptable.

10) Handbook edit (due to oversight): ADD single-shot shotguns to PLAINSMAN side match rules. SHB p.17

11) Handbook edit (clarification): re OCTAGON BARRELS on REVOLVERS: BARRELS …● Original barrels may be replaced with new barrels of correct styles (e.g., round, octagon, or half-round) for that particular TYPE firearm. SHB p.4

12) EDIT: Dropped round/ firearm – a round/ firearm that has left the shooter’s control and come to rest at a location or position other than where it was intended. RO1 "Glossary of Terms" p.30

13) CLARIFICATION: what is meant by "in hand" as applied to loaded revolvers? The following was posted (March 2011) on the TG, RO, and ROC Wires (to be added to the next edit of the RO1 "Glossary of Terms") : "REVOLVER IN HAND" is defined as it applies to: Holstered = Muzzle clear of the mouth of the holster (i.e. "out of leather") Staged = Muzzle no longer in contact with the surface of the initial staging point
...this provides the same allowance for a 'full grip' on the second (loaded) revolver while firing the first no matter how/where the revolver (s) start on the stage. Once the muzzle clears the holster or all contact is broken with the prop, the shooter is in violation if not registered as a GF or BW competitor.

The RO Committee is also reviewing the use of elastic on shotgun belts.

The RO committee will review the capping of percussion cylinders outside of the gun and the penalty for dropping a capped cylinder.

Results for SASS Territorial Governor Summit Meeting

*** Note - There were 284 clubs that were represented. 2/3 or 66% = 188 votes required to pass an agenda item ***

1) Should the scoring program be changed so that any shooter that does not finish TWO or more stages in a match is not eligible for any main match awards?

item #1 For 235=82.75% -- Against 48=16.90% -- Abstain 1=.035% PASS

2) Should the limiting criteria for shooters in Age Based categories be changed from the current “minimum qualifying age OR GREATER” to “between the ages of…”?
(e.g. Wranglers from 36-48; 49ers from 49-59; Seniors from 60-64; etc.)

Item #2 For 112=39.44% -- Against 170=59.86% -- Abstain 2=.070% FAIL

3) Should an “OPEN” category be added with NO RESTRICTIONS regarding gender, age, shooting style or propellant?  This would provide a single category in which ANY shooter could register. (Gunfighter-style competitors would have to comply with the current category regulations)

Item #3 For 130=45.77% -- Against 152=53.52% - Abstain 2=.070% FAIL

4) Should the “B” Western Category options be rewritten to allow for additional ladies costuming options?

Item #4 For 182=64.08% -- Against 100=35.62% - Abstain 2=.070% FAIL

5) Should the attached, proposed Category System be adopted?
NOTE: Some of the Ladies categories that have historically been ‘under populated’ at most annual matches are no longer on the “officially recognized” list.  Those have been replaced with FCGF, SGF, Cattle Baron, and 80+ (name as yet undetermined)  A Match Director will always have the OPTION to offer ANY additional categories; as well as the OPTION to change the minimum requirement for honoring a category.

Item #5 For 148=52.11% -- Against 136=47.89% -- Abstain 0=.00% FAIL


Category Rules Mandated by the Wild Bunch in force since 2003:

1. Categories listed are the "Official" SASS categories.

2. All categories must be initially offered at State and above level matches.

3. MDs are NOT required to honor categories that fail to secure a minimum of 5 entries at the State and Regional level, or a minimum of 10 entries at WR and EOT.
A cutoff deadline shall be established and posted by the sponsoring club.

4. Match application forms should ask for a shooter's second (or third) choice.
 

Feedback: Charlie T Waite